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Clash of the VP Candidates
Laura Joszt
Published: Friday, October 12th 2012

In the Thursday’s vice presidential debate for the 2012 election, Vice President Joe Biden came off strongly — perhaps too much so — to make up for President Barack Obama’s dismal debate performance from last week.
 
Throughout the debate, both vice presidential candidates were outspoken, interrupting and talking over each other and getting in a number of zingers.
 
After Republican candidate Mitt Romney steamrolled over Obama and handily won the first presidential debate, Biden turned feisty in his own debate with Paul Ryan. However, Biden’s laughing and aggressive behavior has caused mixed reactions with some viewing him as confident and others calling him condescending.
 
Although Biden was often sarcastic, called Ryan’s statements “malarkey” and even outright laughed during his opponent’s arguments, a CBS poll showed Biden the clear winner among undecided voters. Half of respondents said Biden won; while 31% chose Ryan and 19% put them at a tie. And yet, a CNN poll reported that Ryan beat Biden 48% to 44%.
 
Vice presidential debates rarely have much effect on voters, as proven by the latest on InTrade. During and right after the VP debate, Obama’s stock rallied; however, that gain faded again in just a few hours.
 

Image taken from Business Insider.
 
In the aftermath of the debate, Republicans pounced on the vice president’s performance, with Fox News calling him “disrespectful.” Fox reported that although Biden was aggressive in taking on Ryan, “Biden’s smile may have stolen some of his thunder.”
 
Democratic strategist Joe Trippi, a Fox News contributor, said he thought Biden delivered a strong performance overall, but it was “diminished" by the "smirking."
 
Twitter was full of the media’s response to Biden’s laughing tactic. NBC News’ David Gregory tweeting, “Biden’s smile is out of control.”
 
And TIME’s Michael Scherer joked: “Not sure debate cameras have been light tested for Biden’s teeth. Best to watch with sunglasses.”
 
On the topic of Medicare, Biden and Ryan took on the Romney-Ryan plan for the program, which would offer seniors a predefined amount of money to spend in a health insurance exchange. Biden accused the proposed plan of increasing costs for seniors.
 
Turns out there aren’t actually any current studies, according to fact checking by CBS News. The only studies conducted were on Ryan’s earlier 2012 plan that increased out-of-pocket costs by $6,400, according to the Congressional Budget Office. And the Journal of the American Medical Association reported Ryan’s 2013 plan would cost the average senior $800 a year. But there is nothing as of yet about the Romney-Ryan plan.
 
For the most part Ryan remained cool and collected in the face of Biden’s outright laughter. In defense of Romney’s 47% comments — something Obama didn’t bring up at all in last week’s debate — Ryan got one in on the vice president.
 
“I think the VP very well knows the words sometimes don’t come out of your mouth the right way,” Ryan said.
 
However, one area where Ryan really seemed to falter was taxes, where he wouldn’t give any specifics about Romney’s plan, which Biden called him out on:
 
“Do you actually have the specifics, or are you still working on it?” the vice president interrupted.
 
Even if the vice presidential debate doesn’t sway voters, it has, at the very least, set up momentum for the next presidential debate and the final stretch going into the election.
 
Read more:
Biden Accused of Being Disrespectful in Vice Presidential Debate with Grins, Laughs – Fox News
Biden Comes Out Swinging at Debate, Clashes with Ryan – Reuters
Joe Biden and Paul Ryan Went Head-to-Head in the Vice Presidential DebateBusiness Insider


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A.A
October 12th, 2012 - 12:33:03 PM
Biden's performance was great. What's wrong with a bit of sarcasm? Really? I enjoyed his debate. He has much more experience, a better personality, and better explanations all around. Ryan was robotic, seemed uncomfortable, has no foreign policy experience. Bottom line is he wants to tax put more burden on an already squeezed middle class and take away much needed help for the poor.
Kim VL
October 12th, 2012 - 12:55:12 PM
I don't mind sarcasm, I use it daily, but Joe Biden was downright rude. I wish Ryan would have called him on it and stuck up for himself a bit.
michel
October 12th, 2012 - 01:02:22 PM
That was the best debate I have seen in a long time. I enjoyed Biden actually making a point to zero in on the faulty areas in the Romney-Ryan Budget. At times Ryan seemed so uncomfortable. After every question he needed water, maybe it was part of a sobering, composing moment requiring him to regroup between question. Biden knew his material and did not have to calm his nerves with an ongoing glass of water. Now, it time for Mr. Obama to bring the Democratic Party home. Great debate BIDEN!!!!!
Calypso
October 13th, 2012 - 02:17:30 AM
Biden delivered a knock-out punch which rattled Ryan and sent him packing. It was a great debate, and I did not see anything wrong with the way Biden behaved. If the table had turned against Biden, the Republicans will have sounded a triumphant victory song and make a strong claim to the ultimate crown. I can only say, take a good seat at the ringside for next week's presidential debate. I do predict that both men are going to slug it out in each round, however, with Obama retaining his championship belt.
kmbrly
October 13th, 2012 - 10:49:48 AM
Proverbs 12:16 states it well: A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult. I want to see public servants that are intelligent and respectful; who know how to handle the heat- after all they are supposed to be working for the people. We can still work on social issues for for all, with varying moral convictions. Let's all get off our high horses and get it done already!!
cmartin
October 15th, 2012 - 12:37:15 PM
Yeah for Biden, finally called it by name ( stuff and mallarky)
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